Not even considering the ethics here, from a business standpoint, InfusionSoft has lost (and is losing) far more in business in handling this the way they have than would even compare to a fraction of what a refund would cost…silly.

Anyway, I would like to hear of any alternatives people can suggest besides 1ShoppingCart that integrate email / affiliate tracking and can segregate lists based off of actions (such as purchases or clicks.)

I use Aweber and 3rd party affiliate scripts/services now, but would like to combine the two…

Mike, keep us posted! I wanna hear when you make your first buck.

Jonathan

As I mentioned I just finished the creation of the profiles. Actually you can create only 11 twitter profiles and each profile creation took me around 40 to complete. So if you want to do it all count around 8 hours of dedicated work. But now that it’s done there’s nothing else to do (besides watching my paypal account grow). There has been no incoming payment but I believe it’s really too early to see anything.

Kudos to Steven for this idea. If anyone else has tried please share your thoughts here.

~Mike

Steve here from ‘Steven Jenkins Coaching Club’. I hope you don’t mind me joining the conversation and giving you some background information about the concept.

First of all, I totally agree with Udi: Twitter is a totally different (and harder) game in terms of monetization. It even got worse in the last few days as the Twitter guys obviously get more and more picky on what kind of promo they consider ‘ok’ and what not (yes, we had some Twitter accounts suspended due to that…). My guess is that’s because they are about to start monetizing their traffic themselves:

http://www.watblog.com/2010/02/27/its-official-twitter-to-make-money-online-via-ads/

We already responded to that by adopting the way we do our tweets, but at the same time this was another reason for me to expand the concept beyond only the Twitter plattform (anyway, I am not a fan of putting ‘all eggs into one basket’).

In about one weeks time we will also start building blogs on a few selected free blogging platforms (I don’t want the Coaching Club members to pay ANY money, neither in membership fees nor in any external costs, at least as far as that is possible).

This will give all Club members the opportunity to build their own
mid-term to long-term ‘VRE’ (Virtual Real Estate) portfolio.

Twiter will still play an important role in the expanded concept, but it will be more like one platform among several others. I really think that’s a good diversity then.

The main concept though behind all of it stays the same: automate as much as possible (especially the tedious, repetitive, boring daily todo’s of any internet marketer like tweeting, blog posting, social bookmarking, etc etc), and do this automation in an intelligent way so that it does not produce any gibber and white noise, but real, good, niche-specific relevant content, thus actually contributing *value* to the internet community.

This is general concept both for Twitter and the forthcoming blogging expansion.

The good thing about going into the blogosphere are the additional options (and less restrictions) there, plus some positive side effects like some possible SEO traffic which I consider a bonus if it happens, but not required to make the system work. Instead, we are going more the social path…

Uuups, sorry, this became quite a long answer, but I just wanted to give a guys a better understanding of the Coaching Club concept.

Did I manage to do that?

Have a GREAT day!

- Steve

Besides it’s free for anyone who wants to check it out so what the hell.

Jonathan

That being said, I’m really curious about Steven’s system, so will definitely check it out. Maybe that can be what makes the change?

Thanks Jonathan!

That’s a really common misconception actually. SpeedPPC and LPGen are almost totally different tools, with a small amount of overlap. They work incredibly well together however.

SpeedPPC includes a few landing page templates that have some dynamic keyword insertion in them, but that’s all. There is no dynamic content generation from SpeedPPC at all. There also are no “SEO Friendly” rewritten URLs, nor is there any central place where all your page templates are stored. Every landing page would require you to upload a separate file to your server and you would have to manage all those files yourself. Not a big deal if you’re so inclined, but personally I much prefer a centralized interface for managing everything.

Oh and SpeedPPC also has a datafeed option, as does LPGen, though SpeedPPC’s requires an SQL database and that you import all your data into the DB first, where LPGen simply works from a flat tab delimited file and requires no database.

Those are the only two areas they overlap however.

On the flip side, LPGen doesn’t create PPC campaigns at all, and that’s where SpeedPPC really shines. It will build and deploy your campaigns to a whole range of PPC providers (not just the “big 3″) and the new version even has some keyword research & manipulation tools, and other handy bits & pieces.

I love SpeedPPC, but I often caution people from buying it, who don’t already have the PPC fundamentals down comfortably. I compare SpeedPPC to a chainsaw: If you want to build a house and you’re in the forest, a chainsaw is the only sensible way to quickly cut down the wood you need. But if you DON’T know what you’re doing with it, you’ll lose a limb. SpeedPPC will allow you to build more campaigns, faster. But if you don’t know how to build a solid campaign manually, then you’ll simply build larger, losing campaigns, faster. Fortunately the SpeedPPC folks are including a lot more training with the product these days, so hopefully that helps newbies get the basics down comfortably.

If you do already know what you’re doing, SpeedPPC is an excellent tool. And at nearly half off, I think it’s too useful not to buy. Assuming of course you plan to be a PPC marketer. If PPC isn’t your thing, then there’s not much point in having SpeedPPC.

Hope that helps clear it up!

Jonathan

It looks like this does everything LPgen does and more. How does it work with LPgen and/or why would we need LPgen if we get speed ppc?