Comments for Being An Affiliate is a Dead End. http://tooltrainer.com/blog Mon, 14 May 2012 21:57:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 Comment on Being An Affiliate Is A Dead End. by ToolTrainer http://tooltrainer.com/blog/being-an-affiliate-is-a-dead-end/#comment-1963 ToolTrainer Mon, 14 May 2012 21:57:16 +0000 http://tooltrainer.com/blog/?p=505#comment-1963 Hey Nick, I haven't seen anything about partnering with a coreg network. Advertiser360 is the closest that I'm aware of and I think you're right, it doesn't appear to be available anymore. From what I heard, it has become the curriculum for an actual physical college course, so I've wondered if maybe that's why they don't sell it anymore - some kind of exclusivity agreement or something. But that's just a guess on my part. I've never done my own CPA offer though I've been curious to. What makes me nervous is the huge amount of fraud I know goes on. Being that I've been on the affiliate side for so long, I'm well aware of all the tricks & tactics for spoofing referrers, double-submitting leads, slicing & dicing form submits, and all kinds of other dirty tricks. And I know how hard it can be for the advertiser to prove that's what's going on, so being the advertiser seems very high risk in that regard. But, I do have a few ideas on my list that would probably be a good fit for CPA, so maybe at some point I'll venture down that road. Until then I don't think I'd really be the right person to teach anything about doing it, but thanks for the suggestion! JVC Hey Nick,

I haven’t seen anything about partnering with a coreg network. Advertiser360 is the closest that I’m aware of and I think you’re right, it doesn’t appear to be available anymore. From what I heard, it has become the curriculum for an actual physical college course, so I’ve wondered if maybe that’s why they don’t sell it anymore – some kind of exclusivity agreement or something. But that’s just a guess on my part.

I’ve never done my own CPA offer though I’ve been curious to. What makes me nervous is the huge amount of fraud I know goes on. Being that I’ve been on the affiliate side for so long, I’m well aware of all the tricks & tactics for spoofing referrers, double-submitting leads, slicing & dicing form submits, and all kinds of other dirty tricks. And I know how hard it can be for the advertiser to prove that’s what’s going on, so being the advertiser seems very high risk in that regard. But, I do have a few ideas on my list that would probably be a good fit for CPA, so maybe at some point I’ll venture down that road. Until then I don’t think I’d really be the right person to teach anything about doing it, but thanks for the suggestion!

JVC

]]> Comment on Being An Affiliate Is A Dead End. by Nick http://tooltrainer.com/blog/being-an-affiliate-is-a-dead-end/#comment-1962 Nick Mon, 14 May 2012 15:36:02 +0000 http://tooltrainer.com/blog/?p=505#comment-1962 Hey John I like your post, and its true that affiliate marketing (specially the one that you promote for others) somehow doesn't reward you well for all your efforts. Have you considered perhaps teaching or maybe recommending a course about how to do partner up with co-reg networks and promote your own CPA offers so you don't depend only on a email/zip submit $1.50 payout but instead you control the whole process (well almost)? I am not sure if the course you recommended a while ago (the one with Peter Nguyen - Advertiser360) teaches this, but if so the price is still very high and I am not sure he is still selling it anyway. Do you know of any other resource that teaches this? Thanks in advance for any advise :) Nick Hey John I like your post, and its true that affiliate marketing (specially the one that you promote for others) somehow doesn’t reward you well for all your efforts. Have you considered perhaps teaching or maybe recommending a course about how to do partner up with co-reg networks and promote your own CPA offers so you don’t depend only on a email/zip submit $1.50 payout but instead you control the whole process (well almost)?

I am not sure if the course you recommended a while ago (the one with Peter Nguyen – Advertiser360) teaches this, but if so the price is still very high and I am not sure he is still selling it anyway. Do you know of any other resource that teaches this?

Thanks in advance for any advise :)

Nick

]]> Comment on Being An Affiliate Is A Dead End. by ToolTrainer http://tooltrainer.com/blog/being-an-affiliate-is-a-dead-end/#comment-1960 ToolTrainer Wed, 02 May 2012 05:17:28 +0000 http://tooltrainer.com/blog/?p=505#comment-1960 Yeah not a bad point about the price. I did mention in my post that it was a high ticket course, but maybe you didn't catch that. As for the person in the video, it's quite common these days that someone who figures out a method & technique, but doesn't have any name recognition, list, etc. teams up with someone else who has those things and can make the launch a big success. That's what's happened here... The two Jasons (Potash and Katzenback) have taken on the marketing/promotion side of things, and let Matt focus on delivering the product. So yeah, nothing shady about that in my opinion, but I can see your point. Oh and as for the length of the video, that's a big reason why I love MySpeed so much (link is in the post)... it lets me watch these videos as fast as I want so I don't have to sit through the whole thing at regular speed if I don't want to. Super useful. :) JVC Yeah not a bad point about the price. I did mention in my post that it was a high ticket course, but maybe you didn’t catch that. As for the person in the video, it’s quite common these days that someone who figures out a method & technique, but doesn’t have any name recognition, list, etc. teams up with someone else who has those things and can make the launch a big success. That’s what’s happened here… The two Jasons (Potash and Katzenback) have taken on the marketing/promotion side of things, and let Matt focus on delivering the product.

So yeah, nothing shady about that in my opinion, but I can see your point. Oh and as for the length of the video, that’s a big reason why I love MySpeed so much (link is in the post)… it lets me watch these videos as fast as I want so I don’t have to sit through the whole thing at regular speed if I don’t want to. Super useful. :)

JVC

]]> Comment on Being An Affiliate Is A Dead End. by Dan http://tooltrainer.com/blog/being-an-affiliate-is-a-dead-end/#comment-1959 Dan Wed, 02 May 2012 03:27:22 +0000 http://tooltrainer.com/blog/?p=505#comment-1959 Dude, I had to sit through a 15 minute video to find out it has a 1k pricetag? no, thanks. Wish you would have mentioned the price and saved me the time. Why is this narrator talking about another guy and his course? Instead of this "actual" guy, Matt, doing the video. seems shady ma dude. Sorry. Dude, I had to sit through a 15 minute video to find out it has a 1k pricetag? no, thanks. Wish you would have mentioned the price and saved me the time.

Why is this narrator talking about another guy and his course? Instead of this “actual” guy, Matt, doing the video. seems shady ma dude. Sorry.

]]> Comment on Being An Affiliate Is A Dead End. by ToolTrainer http://tooltrainer.com/blog/being-an-affiliate-is-a-dead-end/#comment-1958 ToolTrainer Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:02:20 +0000 http://tooltrainer.com/blog/?p=505#comment-1958 Wow. I do? You'll have to tell me where all that cash has gone then. How many promotional emails have you gotten from me this month? Or hell this year? I haven't promoted more than a dozen launches in my entire online career (since 2007 when I started building a mailing list), and even a dozen is being generous. I'm afraid you need to check your facts. Besides if I actually think something has value, I believe the majority of my list members would like to hear my take on it. Sounds like you're in the minority, which is OK too. JVC Wow. I do? You’ll have to tell me where all that cash has gone then. How many promotional emails have you gotten from me this month? Or hell this year? I haven’t promoted more than a dozen launches in my entire online career (since 2007 when I started building a mailing list), and even a dozen is being generous. I’m afraid you need to check your facts.

Besides if I actually think something has value, I believe the majority of my list members would like to hear my take on it. Sounds like you’re in the minority, which is OK too.

JVC

]]> Comment on Being An Affiliate Is A Dead End. by Darren http://tooltrainer.com/blog/being-an-affiliate-is-a-dead-end/#comment-1957 Darren Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:30:21 +0000 http://tooltrainer.com/blog/?p=505#comment-1957 Yet another promotion, you use your mailing list as a cash cow trying to milk and suck every money out of it. I'm unsubscribing. Yet another promotion, you use your mailing list as a cash cow trying to milk and suck every money out of it. I’m unsubscribing.

]]> Comment on Being An Affiliate Is A Dead End. by ToolTrainer http://tooltrainer.com/blog/being-an-affiliate-is-a-dead-end/#comment-1956 ToolTrainer Thu, 26 Apr 2012 22:10:13 +0000 http://tooltrainer.com/blog/?p=505#comment-1956 What links are dead? They're all working perfectly for me... what happens? Do you get an error message? Or end up at the wrong page? Or something else? Define "dead"... JVC What links are dead? They’re all working perfectly for me… what happens? Do you get an error message? Or end up at the wrong page? Or something else? Define “dead”…

JVC

]]> Comment on Being An Affiliate Is A Dead End. by Stew http://tooltrainer.com/blog/being-an-affiliate-is-a-dead-end/#comment-1955 Stew Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:54:24 +0000 http://tooltrainer.com/blog/?p=505#comment-1955 Sorry Jonathan. More dead links...in the above post. Sorry Jonathan. More dead links…in the above post.

]]> Comment on Being An Affiliate Is A Dead End. by ToolTrainer http://tooltrainer.com/blog/being-an-affiliate-is-a-dead-end/#comment-1954 ToolTrainer Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:22:41 +0000 http://tooltrainer.com/blog/?p=505#comment-1954 Sure thing... for the moment you can see the video I made for my beta testers, although there has been a LOT of development that isn't shown here and I'm not quite ready to reveal. ;) For basic usage of the plugin, here is a quick demo video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndYWBCtvv7E ;) JVC Sure thing… for the moment you can see the video I made for my beta testers, although there has been a LOT of development that isn’t shown here and I’m not quite ready to reveal. ;)

For basic usage of the plugin, here is a quick demo video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndYWBCtvv7E
;)

JVC

]]> Comment on Being An Affiliate Is A Dead End. by adam http://tooltrainer.com/blog/being-an-affiliate-is-a-dead-end/#comment-1953 adam Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:22:24 +0000 http://tooltrainer.com/blog/?p=505#comment-1953 hi, do detail out the WP SneakyLinks feature a bit will ya tq hi,
do detail out the WP SneakyLinks feature a bit will ya
tq

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